Release the Hybrids ! Nvidia reconsiders ATI+NV PhysX setups ?
Users at NGOHQ Hybrid PhysX Mod 1.03 discussion have discovered awesome fact – with recent 257.15 GeForce/ION drivers combo ATI + NV PhysX setups are working without need to apply any modifications !
Quoting GenL, Hybrid PhysX mod creator
I’m seriously amazed… seems like you are right! I just didn’t test it yesterday because i saw a user report saying otherwise on another site, but now i’ve tested it by myself on Windows XP and Windows 7 x64 – it really works “out of the box” with 257.15.
In Windows XP i’ve just extended the fake desktop, and on Windows 7 i created one non-extended – that’s all i needed to get GPU-PhysX working. And even more surprising – timebomb issue is gone too, at least for its normal time interval (~30 seconds in FluidMark).
Originally, Hybrid PhysX configurations were officially blocked by Nvidia in Q4 2009.
Update: video from TweakPC, showing Hybrid system working with 257.15 drivers. In addition – tests by Geeks3D
What’s this – accidental mistake or permanent change, ticket to the bright future for Hybrid PhysX systems ?
Update #2: unfortunately, this was just a bug.
Yes, this is a bug in the latest build of PhysX that was packaged with the driver. We’ll be fixing this issue ASAP – the WHQL driver launching in early June won’t have this issue. – NVIDIA.
Shame on you, Nvidia. Anyway, we still have Hybrid PhysX mod.
Update #3: official statement from Nvidia
The fact remains that the investment to do a full QA cycle on this AMD/NVIDIA hybrid GPU configuration is beyond what NVIDIA can support at this time. The cost of maintaining AMD/NVIDIA hybrid configurations is larger than the development expense for PhysX, and I do expect that there are games and configurations where this type of system just won’t work.
Use comments to this post to provide your feedback.
Good news!
3ppp
27 May 10 at 2:12 pm
wow, fail – nvidia, or nice work – nvidia
MicrO
27 May 10 at 5:06 pm
I’m shocked, it does work! I never thought of even testing it before because I didn’t think Nvidia cared. Aww how sweet of them! About bloody time! Still no tab in Nvidia settings though. I guess it isn’t really needed though.
xDee xDee
27 May 10 at 6:55 pm
Doesnt work for me.
Cleaned out all nvidia software, installed ati cat 10.5, nvidia 257.15 with physx9100222 display extendede on 8600gt, nvidia control panel doesn`t have “SLI and PhysX configuration” under “3D setings” menu, but shows 8600gt in cuda-gpus dropbox.
Gpu-z shows unchecked “Physx” box.
Metro2033 starts, but works on cpu.
Fluidmark wows “physxloader is missing”, when .dll been copied to fluidmark folder app starts but shows “Software Acc-ion”.
rollin` back to 196.21/physx-mod 1.02 :\
3ppp
27 May 10 at 9:57 pm
got 175 fluidmark score without genls pach but i got a wooping 432 points with the pach applyed. so i guess you will have to go with the pach anyway.
dan0
27 May 10 at 10:02 pm
@dan0
nah, no changes, man ;\, checked already, either with 1.03 or 1.02. Genl`s patch works on nvidia drivers, it doesn`t touch physx, some twist here i’ve …
3ppp
27 May 10 at 10:10 pm
It’s because Manju Hegde, VP of Cuda/Physx (was CEO of Ageia) is moving to AMD.
algova
27 May 10 at 11:42 pm
You really do not need the patch. If it isn’t working for you then it is because of user error.
The reason you are getting the “PhysXLoader.dll is missing” error is because you don’t have the PhysX System Software installed.
You don’t need to extend the displays to the 8600GT either. You can disable the monitor in Windows monitor setup. It just has to have been detected and given a “ghost” monitor.
It is working fine for me without the patch and I’m using 10.5, 257.15, 9.10.2222.
Manju Hegde really doesn’t have anything to do with this. For AMD he will be head of a completely different project. So don’t count on AMD getting PhysX or something similar.
xDee xDee
28 May 10 at 2:20 am
hi!
but CUDA don’t functions?
leo81
28 May 10 at 9:37 am
@xDee xDee
whatever, i’ve checked all possible variants in win7 x64, it doesn’t work for me.
3ppp
28 May 10 at 10:36 am
It worked for me if i extended the display. I’m currently on Win7 pro 64 and it now works fine without the patch.
Dan0
28 May 10 at 2:53 pm
So this explains why some people can’t do it. They downloaded the drivers after it had been fixed! LOL so lame! This type of crap is annoying. Why don’t they just allow it. Very sad!
xDee xDee
28 May 10 at 10:03 pm
xDee xDee
They fixed nothing yet. Files are still the same from May 24.
BTW, if under “build of PhysX” they meant PhysX System Software, then it doesn’t make any sense, because it still dated Feb 22 inside 257.15 drivers. They didn’t changed it since then, so there can be no new “bugs” there.
GenL
28 May 10 at 10:46 pm
Oh…well I was just reading and they said they were fixing the download link for the beta drivers so that people didn’t download the so called “broken” or “bugged” drivers.
I actually uninstalled the PhysX SS after installing the drivers and then reinstalled the PhysX SS with the standalone installer from Guru3D. I noticed that the PhysX SS installer that comes in the 257.15 driver package is smaller then the standalone installer which I don’t know what that means. Maybe they took something out and changed something? I onno.
Hell at any rate if and when they do fix this so called “bug” hopefully your patch will still work eh?
xDee xDee
29 May 10 at 1:39 am
xDee xDee
PhysX SS provided in 257.15 is exactly the same as original PhysX SS v9.10.0222. It’s smaller in drivers because it’s stored in MSI there, and bigger in standalone EXE case.
Both MSI and EXE are digitally signed at feb 22.
GenL
29 May 10 at 2:52 am
Doesn’t work for me neither…
Like the case of 3ppp. I tried with 8600GT the 257.15 driver and also with mod.
Any idea?
hunhun
29 May 10 at 10:20 am
official statement here:
http://blogs.nvidia.com/ntersect/2010/05/update-on-release-256-physx-support-1.html
Stefan
29 May 10 at 12:18 pm
Thanks, Stefan !
Zogrim
29 May 10 at 1:07 pm
hunhun
Try extending your fake display.
GenL
29 May 10 at 11:58 pm
I’ve tried already…
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/4692459/1/hybrid%20problem?h=06258c
It’s possible that something wrong with my 8600GT?
hunhun
30 May 10 at 9:58 pm
hunhun
Have you tried older drivers with the mod? Like 185.68 or 190/195?
Many 8600GT owners complain about this new 257.15… I’m beginning to think there is something wrong with this driver, or perhaps nvidia disabled PhysX altogether for these series.
GenL
31 May 10 at 4:56 pm
Yes…I’ve tried almost everything.
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/4692459/1/hybrid%20problem?h=06258c
There is another screen shot taken when only the 8600GT installed.
Physx still missing… Could the win7×64 cause the problem? Or something is really wrong with my 8600GT.
hunhun
1 Jun 10 at 8:17 pm
Anyone having problems needs to install the GenL PhysXmod1.03, even with the v257.15
Can GenL make a CUDA mod for JustCause2?
P10-17000
9 Jun 10 at 12:27 am
>CUDA mod for JustCause2?
You really should ask developers. Afaik even nvidia GPUs are not supported as a non-SLI secondary device.
GenL
11 Jun 10 at 12:48 pm